heh, since i know you guys hate rippers, i shouldnt be afraid to post this ss of the site i just started for g0twebdesigns
www.sin.g0tweb.com/g0twebss.gif
heres my clans website that i made, i was just screwing around, and i drew that site on paper, i wished it turned out better but owell
www.sin.g0tweb.com
(p.s. hehe griff go check out our forums :P ) and i made everything on it, the planets, the sun, everything. (even the grim reaper i got the idea for the reaper off of some exercise website, and i saw that reaper and learned how to draw it)